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Steam Required for a Catapult Launch?

Hi,  As part of an modern Aircraft Carrier Design spreadsheet that I have been working on (which I have mentioned in a couple threads on these boards) I have been trying to determine the amount of...

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Hi,Sorry for the delay in getting this done, but I was having some problems making a PDF.  So, for now here is a scan of the article in a WORD format.RegardsPathttp://www.mnvdet.com/CV/COGAS3.docx

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That article is great... it solves most of the questions regarding the likely size and efficiency of naval waste heat generators. 1) Efficiency of the Steam GeneratorGT exhaust temp: 977 FAir temp...

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HK: What are you using the output from the GT for? My assumption is you are to meet: a) propulsion b) hotel loads - I'm leaning to electric drive... With remaining propulsion coming from Diesels? So,...

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Don, good question. Given the fairly large GT output that will be needed to generate steam, you may not want diesels at all so as not to have a ton of excess GT power. Also the GTs will be almost as...

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HK: Turbines are only efficient between ⅔rds and full load; I'm not sure cruise requires even 1 of your pair of LM2500 G4s to be operating at ⅔rds to meet propulsion load (assuming hotel load is met...

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Re: Steam Required for a Catapult Launch?

HK wrote:That article is great... it solves most of the questions regarding the likely size and efficiency of naval waste heat generators. 1) Efficiency of the Steam GeneratorGT exhaust temp: 977 FAir...

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Re: Steam Required for a Catapult Launch?

don4331 wrote: Turbines are only efficient between ⅔rds and full load; I'm not sure cruise requires even 1 of your pair of LM2500 G4s to be operating at ⅔rds to meet propulsion load (assuming hotel...

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don4331 wrote: And when launching a strike, you will be using 100% of steam for the strikes; so turbo generator isn't available when hotel loads are probably also at their peak. I believe I am leaning...

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Re: Steam Required for a Catapult Launch?

How about COSAD-IEP? COSAD has been done before (but not on carriers). Turbo-Electric has been done before (including on Lex and Sara, CV-2 and -3). And CODAG-IEP is being done on the QE class, so IEP...

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HK: While your calculation of the Steam Generator’s efficiency is correct; the efficiency isn’t used in the steam calculations: LM2500 (early generation) GT output: 463,000 lb/hr @ 977 F Stack exhaust...

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Here are a few data points for hotel loads:Cavour's maximum hotel load is ~6.5MW (generating capacity of 17.6MW with 270% margin)....

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Note the increase in power cylinder diameter for the C-13-2 (21"), which compensates for the lower operating pressure compared to the C-13-1 and C-13-3 (18" both). You need much more steam to fill the...

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Bager: Could the upper limit for the C-13-2 be for launching F-14 Tomcat's - 74k lb max weights? While the C-13-1/3 lower numbers be for the F-18 Super Hornet/E-2 Hawkeyes (66k/57k lbs respectively);...

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Re: Steam Required for a Catapult Launch?

The C-13-3 is just a -2 cut down for Charles de Gaulle; the limitation is a function of the shorter stroke length. The USN happily launched F-14s from -1s on the earlier Nimitzes, and even the C-11s...

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Re: Steam Required for a Catapult Launch?

IcelofAngeln wrote:The C-13-3 is just a -2 cut down for Charles de Gaulle; the limitation is a function of the shorter stroke length. The USN happily launched F-14s from -1s on the earlier Nimitzes,...

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200 Gallons per shot..

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Essex class used a different cat strategy than a Nuke. They align a certain number of boilers to the cats and keep it that way. Usage is about 150 or so gallons.

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How are you going to get super-heated 855deg/1,000+ lb. steam out of an LM-2500? The waste heat boilers on the CGs and DDs could just make enough steam for 100lb. hotel loads. Not to mention that they...

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Re: Steam Required for a Catapult Launch?

I'm wondering if it's feasible to have a steam catapult installed on a flight deck on a modern freighter or tanker converted as a CVE.

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Re: Steam Required for a Catapult Launch?

Condottiere wrote:I'm wondering if it's feasible to have a steam catapult installed on a flight deck on a modern freighter or tanker converted as a CVE.Wouldn't you really do everything you need from...

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